London SE22 - Word on the street
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
29 December 2008
East Dulwich has everything - parks, bars, restaurants, supermarkets, young population, unique local shops, good transport links, and property prices at two thirds of those in Clapham ...
The beautiful Dulwich College, Gallery and Dulwich Village is close by, so is the Dulwich Woods and Horniman Museum. I am surprised that most people do not know Dulwich, which is not necessarily a bad thing!
W
Word On The Street: London SE22
20 December 2006
I love my area and have lived here all my life ...
... There is a lot to do especially at night and everyone is very friendly. I like it that you can get a bus up and down the road.
Sophie
Word On The Street: London SE22
12 December 2006
The woods are a great part of the Dulwich "green" experience ...
... Its true people don't mention them much, but then again, I think I like that, cos it keeps them nice, quiet and peaceful!
Don't forget Horniman Gardens either. Although they are in Forest Hill, they are worth a stroll too, with nice, unexpected views back to central London.
Mick
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
02 November 2006
I have lived in East Dulwich for 9 years now ...
... Although I did live here 15 years ago for about a year, having moved from NHG, but I found it too slow - but of course I was a lot younger then.
I always thought it had something special and I am pleased it has changed in the way it has, but I think it is very geared up for the 20 -38 year olds with babies - which is fine. I couldn't think of a better area (and I have lived all over London) for people to bring up their kids. I hope it doesn't end up becoming too precious.
I think all areas need variety to make it real. After all there are people living here that have been here nearly all their lives and it must seem somewhat alien to them now.
How come no one ever mentions the woods when talking about the green spaces?
Lucy Roberts
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
16 August 2006
Great friendly area with a good mix of people ...
Being 'Clapham-ised' as we speak, but still with plenty of individuality. Local shops offer lots of useful things, including fantastic food (there is a good deli and a great butchers)and as much DIY stuff as you'll ever need. Housing stock is good with a mix of fairly spacious flats, small houses and also proper family sized homes. Green spaces not far off with Peckham Rye common and Dulwich Park round the corner.
Word On The Street: London SE22
13 July 2006
I moved here from Streatham 5 months ago, but have been working here for 3 years.
... I can't tell enough people how wonderful it is. I had been burgled 3 times and had my car stolen in Streatham and felt nervous walking after dark. In contrast I feel so safe here, the people are so friendly and the parks so green.
I've lived in most parts of London at some point or other and I can honestly say this is the best place in all of London. I love it! Now that's being smug!
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
12 July 2006
East Dulwich has good schools and it's good for families.
... I first moved here 5 years ago with my boyfriend when we were both in our late 20s. There are great restaurants, bars, pubs, shops, boutiques and the fab Northcross Road market at weekends. We've inevitably moved into our 30s and had a baby but it's still great in East Dulwich!
Lordship Lane has everything you need - a really nice Somerfield (with Sainsburys next to the station) a proper butchers, a great old-fashioned greengrocers, a deli, a cheese shop (Cheese Block) and a bakers amongst other things. It's great to put baby in the stroller and go down Lordship Lane.
People seem really child-friendly here. The Goose Green Fair a few weeks ago was great and packed with lots of families, as well as younger 20-somethings. The whole Dulwich Festival was great - I like that there is a lot of support for local artists.
The primary schools are good (Goodrich, St Anthony's and Heber). Now we are also going to get a new girls' secondary and boys' secondary, due to open in Sept 2007.
It's a shame though that they're going to demolish part of the beautiful Victorian Dulwich Hospital. I know the Dulwich Society has tried to get it listed because it really is a grand old building and you can see the towers from all over. There's talk of the community trying to save it and open a public project like an art gallery there.
It's nice to live somewhere with a good community spirit rather than an anonymous part of London where neighbours don't talk to each other(we moved from Fulham and definitely prefer it here).
I know some people say some of the character of ED has gone with all the news shops and bars opening. Yes some things like the loss of the comedy club haven't been good. However some of the new places really add to the character of ED - like the Black Cherry pub - good food and drinks with friendly service; Hope and Greenwood chocolate and sweet shop - its kooky and kids love it and I take my little girl there as a treat); I also love Mrs Robinson and have bought furniture and clothes/jewellery there - it was great when they expanded the shop.
One thing they can't change though is all the green space - Dulwich Park, Goose Green and Peckham Rye Common are all fab.
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
23 June 2006
East Dulwich rocks!
... I'm an American artist who's lived here for 18 months and I've had a blast in this awesome town. North Cross Road is my favourite hangout area, especially the Drum!
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
21 June 2006
I have lived in East Dulwich since 1997, first as a student in a shared house, and now as a home owning 20 something young professional ...
... It's difficult to deny that some of the charm and character of the area has been lost as the place has been gentrified, but alongside the boutiques and trendy bars there still are traditional "caffs" and pubs. To me the mix is about right.
My only real regret was the decision of the EDT to turn a hugely popular comedy club into a second rate restaurant.
Word On The Street: London SE22
24 May 2006
Where else on 'FindaProperty.com' would you find a 'debate' such as the one below? ...
... East Dulwich is like a little village. And from a minority in such a village comes an almost comical (yet endearing) village mentality: Inverse snobbery about people moving in from more expensive areas?! Rose tinted spectacles about 'the good old days'?! Tirades about posh chocolate shops and designer teapots?!
If these are the worst things about life in East Dulwich then I can't imagine why anyone would be put-off. The rest of London seems more concerned with being able to get down the street without being mugged.
The good news about ED, however, is that the majority of the population are perfectly normal folks who, for the most part, welcome the fact that the area has undergone a major smartening-up, but still remain their perfectly normal selves. Some of them even might enjoy the occasional overpriced chocolate.
Word On The Street: London SE22
23 May 2006
It's still a nice place to live but the Clapham types are ruining it ...
... What's with all these stupid shops selling designer teapots and bath foam for £20? What we need is a veggie restaurant, more scruffy bars (less identikit ones with chandeliers and poncy wallpaper) and some decent vintage shops.
Word On The Street: London SE22
18 May 2006
It's still a friendly place even with all the changes ...
... Moved here 4 years ago when the area was quite different - there were a few nice shops and pubs/bars but a lot of the buildings on Lordship Lane were boarded up.
What attracted me to the area was that I could live in a quiet place with plenty of green spaces - Dulwich Park, Peckham Rye Park, Goose Green - and where people were really friendly and still be only 12 minutes on the train into London Bridge.
Changes always bring both good and bad things. On the upside there's more variety on Lordship Lane (e.g. there's finally a decent and good quality butchers), on the downside some of the new boutiques are very expensive so I tend to shop there only when I want something one off or extra special.
Overall I have found that the news bars like Bishop, Black Cherry and Liquorice have great friendly service. The service at a couple of restaurants has gone downhill as they have become very popular - now they are doing so well they don't make such an effort with the service which is a shame but I keep going back as the food is so good!
The biggest change I have seen is that streets have really smartened up. I would say that my road was really scruffy when I first moved there. Okay there has been a big influx of people in their 20s and 30s, but they are often buying their first home and they have made a real effort to smarten up their homes, paint the fronts and make their front gardens nice.
Its not because they have lots of money, most don't because the prices are so high now. The new people opposite me are a young couple and they have put in some pretty long hours doing up their house themselves as they can't afford to get decorators in as it is their first home.
The new people moving to my road (and yes some are from Clapham!) are friendly and have made an effort to get to know their neighbours which can't be a bad thing.
Word On The Street: London SE22
16 May 2006
I moved to East Dulwich 3 months ago, and as a newcomer, I really enjoy the area and its unique feel ...
... And frankly, I really don't care what people think of me, whether they have lived here for 20 years or less than a year. I have the right to settle wherever I wish, and this is a democratic city and country.
My wife is pregnant with our first child and we will probably be like all the other newly-arrived "of breeding age" as one person so tastefully put it, and I suppose my wife will be one of those "earnest" and "thrusting" mums too. And I think that's cool, as are everyone else who mix here and add to the area's appeal, whatever their background.
I think it's a good thing for an area to improve, to get new shops and restaurants, to feel safer, to have houses refurbished and improved. That's surely better than a south-east London black hole of chavdom and bling.
Word On The Street: London SE22
15 May 2006
East Dulwich has smartened itself up incredibly, with all the empty and derelict buildings modernised or rebuilt since the late 90s ...
Word On The Street: London SE22
15 May 2006
Smug, yes, that was the impression I got ...
... An area of chavs and chav nots. A bit like Fulham used to be in the 1980s.
Word On The Street: London SE22
12 May 2006
Has the East Dulwich backlash started so soon? ...
... The fact that people want to move to ED and bring up their children should be seen as a good thing, shouldn't it? What exactly is wrong with parents being ambitious, or mothers being young and thrusting - and - *sharp intake of breath* - actually wanting to have a life whilst they've got young children?
Clearly some folks long for the good old days when women kept their mouths shut and their kids out of sight. Whilst I agree that people on low incomes are being priced-out of the area, ED is subject to the forces of capitalist economics just like everywhere else in London - it's hardly the fault of the people who earn more money.
Let's not forget that many of those long-established residents have been more than happy to cash-in on the property boom in the area by selling-up and moving somewhere up the chain (thus pricing someone else out of their local area!)
Word On The Street: London SE22
12 May 2006
Gentrification makes people act funny ...
... Are there too many smug new parents wandering about Lordship Lane with little Amelia nestling in their Baby Bjorns on a Saturday morning? Yes, probably.
Does it sometimes feel as though the entire 20-something population of Clapham have all swapped their 2-bed flats for newly refurbed monster 4-bed palaces on my street? Almost certainly.
Does this merit the level of whinging from these 'I-am-merely-pretending-to-be-annoyed-that-my-local-neighbourhood-is-no-longer-a-rundown-s*itheap-just-so-I-can-point-out-that-I-have-lived-here-longer-than-everyone-else-and-am-therefore-a-morally-superior-being
types?
No, of course not.
My advice to anyone reading this and trying to work out what SE22 is like is to ignore these people - they are the equivalent of the pensioner who can't believe they had to fight in WWII so that 'the youth' can wear g-strings and generally enjoy themselves. They suffered so that you don't have to...
Personally as someone who moved here 5 years ago - just as SE22 was pulling its socks up - I still miss the dubious charms of The Hamlet's late licence and Emmerdale-farmhouse interior; the icy chill that would wash over you if, heaven forfend, you ever fancied a drink in the Foresters; and the grotty charms of the knackered old Somerfields.
That said, ED undoubtedly lost a little of its soul when local institutions like the ED Comedy Club finally got moved out of the area just so that the Magdala could undergo a personality-free makeover.
Let's not get carried away though. Now - the day Cheney Books gets turned into an All Bar One? Then we can talk about the downside of gentrification.
Other than that, East Dulwich is ace - lots of green, lots of pubs and restaurants, lots of funky shops and lots of equity in my house since I bought at the right time.
Only joking.
The whingers simply need to realise that they live in a lovely chunk of London, and other people might just want to live there too...
Word On The Street: London SE22
11 May 2006
I moved here in the 1980s. Over the last ten years, East Dulwich has been losing its honest unpretentious atmosphere as pubs and shops have been replaced by bars and boutiques ...
The cutesie chocolate shop on Northcross is typical of the trend, twee and expensive. I reckon SE22 was in its prime around 2000 when the comedy and film clubs were thriving.
These days, the place is simply too expensive for such cultural activities to find a home here. I still like it here, but the atmosphere has become rather self-satisfied, as typified by the smug newsletters that have recently sprung up.
Word On The Street: London SE22
05 May 2006
It's decent, but the flood of relatively wealthy under 30's has meant the character of the place has changed to sub Clapham ...
... with the resultant rise in house prices and the emergence of bars and cafés. This isn't all a bad thing - but many long term resident miss the long established bars and social clubs that have sadly made way for newer more trendy places, catering to a different crowd.
It's impossible to park easily or get a basic coffee for under a quid here. The newly refurbished/ renamed bars are awash with pre-school kids and their thrusting earnest mothers, whilst local schools are much more segregated now, due to the flood of wealth into the area, meaning that some primary schools are considered 'must get into'
whilst others are left to rot and the kids who may not have the ambitious parents don't really stand a chance.
Still, that isn't a direct criticism. I like the place and have lived here for some time. If you are relatively wealthy, well educated and are of breeding age, then ED has everything you will need. Until you move to the suburbs for the Grammar schools that is.
If you aren't wealthy and have a poor education, then it may not be for you. Membership of the local NCT is a must, as is regular Church attendance and glad handing of the vicar if you want to help your chances of getting into the local top achieving school.
Cynical Me? I think not. Still not a bad place though.
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
18 April 2006
I have lived in East Dulwich for 2 years...
In response to the message on 29 March, I get the train to London Bridge every day and the only train you can't always get on is the 8.05am so I just don't bother going for that train. I get the one before at 7.50am or the later trains at 8.15am, 8.35am or 8.55am.
You can always get on these three trains and you are always guaranteed a seat on the 8.35am and 8.55am if you get on the less busy carriages. The trains only take 12 minutes to London Bridge making it a quick commute straight into the City.
I love East Dulwich and wouldn't live anywhere else in London. It has a village feel with lots of green spaces (e.g. Dulwich Park, Goose Green), yet it is a very lively place. Our house has risen in value by just over 60% in the last three years. Prices are still rising fast, particularly since more and more bars, restaurants and boutiques keep opening.
An old fashioned butchers opened last year and there is a great organic greengrocers on Northcross Road. There is also a speciality cheese shop on Lordship Lane called Cheeseblock, and the East Dulwich Deli is opening another outlet in Harrods soon. Dr Boo is one of a number of gorgeous boutiques for clothes. Roullier White and Mrs Robinson are fab for homewares and furniture.
There are so many great restaurants and bars that we no longer go into Central London as much at the weekends. East Dulwich is very popular with 20 and 30 somethings, although families with young children are also attracted to the area due to the good primary schools.
On the downside, the council is sometimes useless at cleaning the streets although there has been a huge improvement over the last 12 months. The train station can also have lots of litter and graffiti but again efforts have recently been made to improve it although there is still some way to go.
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
18 April 2006
I recently moved to East Dulwich as well...
... and I can honestly say that there are far more travel options to the commuter than just East Dulwich Station.
For a start the no 12 bus takes you direct to Piccadilly & Oxford Circus, Peckham Rye station gives you options to Blackfriars or Victoria, West Dulwich the same, and then there is still Honor Oak Station for London Bridge. Plus, there are at least 3 other bus routes that get you to West End/ ALdwych, with many more options linking from Camberwell Green.
So, not so bad after all, if one is willing to suss out various alternative routes and be a bit more adventurous!
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
18 April 2006
It's great! Moved here a year ago from off Northcote Road in Battersea and haven't looked back since.
There are wonderful local shops, bars and restaurants - no Nandos or Burger King. In 2 years, we never met anyone in Battersea but here within a week we'd actually made friends with all our neighbours!
Southwark Council is currently upgrading the streets and planting trees. The weekly market is expanding and every rundown shop is reopening as something truly desirable. East Dulwich really is a little oasis - with a soul - in South East London and it just keeps getting better every month
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
29 March 2006
I have recently moved to East Dulwich from central London...
Transport in East Dulwich is disastrous - the train services to London Bridge between 8am and 9am are frequently overcrowded and you cannot get on the train ... leaving you with over 20 minutes wait for the next train after 8.35am. And another battle as the platform becomes more and more packed.
It feels rural and far away from the centre of London because, from a transport point of view, it is!
Word On The Street: London SE22
01 August 2005
I have lived in the area for about 5 years...
It has changed considerably. In the last few years it has flourished. Pubs & bars (EDT; Inside 72; Bishop & now the Black Cherry), good places to eat, and quick to London Bridge. Sound place.
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
20 July 2005
Just bought a flat in East Dulwich...
It's definitely one of the more reasonable priced parts of London for your money. It's chilled out for somewhere so close to the City, the only thing it could do with is more bars seeing as the all the ones it has (even the most recent that have cropped up such as the Bishop) are already packed to overflowing every weeekend!!
Word On The Street: London SE22
01 June 2005
I bought a 2 bedroom here a little over two years ago and am still discovering the area.
I have lived in most areas south of the river and ED is by far the most laid back, self contained and sorted postcode that suits all your needs for good food, gift shopping and a great selection of bars.
I used to visit soho and surrounding areas quite a bit but have everything i need in the local area when it comes to going out for a good night!
Word On The Street: East Dulwich
04 May 2005
I moved to East Dulwich a year ago...
I'd always lived in North London but my boyfriend and I were fed up of our cramped 1 bed flat in Highgate and wanted somewhere bigger and more affordable.
We love it here now, lovely quiet, leafy and suburban, yet also loads of shops, bars and restaurants, you don't feel like you're in London but then again only 10 mins on train into town.
22 January 2003
I have lived in East Dulwich for four years...
In this time I have seen it expand from having just a few shops and restaurants to becoming a place you could spend every evening and weekend in doing something different. It is well connected by rail and buses (who needs the tube !) and there is a multiplicity of shops, bars ,restaurants and two big parks for those who like green areas. The local fitness centre has blossomed in the last year and offers good classes and a large gym. Dulwich Village is only 10 minutes walk away for serenity and hot chocolate and Peckham Rye is positively buzzing with bargains a few minutes bus ride away. Overall there really is a village feel to the place and a sense of community.
16 October 2002
I have lived in East Dulwich for four years...
It is beautifully green, leafy and spacious with a real sense of suburbia. Whilst being trendy it is unpretentious. When leaving the City behind after a hard day at the office, going home to SE22 is heavenly.
Weekends are relaxed and I love to potter around in the area.
East Dulwich has so much to offer, great location, near to the City and accessible to so many other areas in SW and SE London, plenty of local amenities and places of interest to suit all ages and tastes nicely topped off with great character.
19 September 2002
I have lived all over London and East Dulwich is by far the most friendly, atmospheric and unpretentious spot that there is...
It is the kind of place that you talk to your neighbours, know the chap in the grocers by name and really look forward to spending the weekend at home - as opposed to wanting to rush out of the city a.s.a.p.
Despite not having a tube it is easy to get to London Bridge and has innumerable buses (the no. 12 goes all the way to Oxford Circus) and makes travelling back from work in the centre a lot less crushed and unpleasant.
Host to a number of gorgeous cafés, notably the Blue Mountain, and gift shops like Ed's and Grace & Favour, all on funky Northcross Road.
If you want a lovely Victorian 3 bed house there are loads of them but get in there fast as they do disappear very quickly. I LOVE THIS PLACE!!
03 September 2002
I have lived in Nunhead and East Dulwich for the last three years...
I have to say that East Dulwich has got a much more laid back attitude and better looking properties!
There are shops (I adore Woodwrights for all things Asian/African!), bars ('Inside 72' being a particular favourite!) and good transport links to central London. If you like eating out then you will be truly spoilt for choice with a number of good quality restaurants to suit a range of budgets: Le Chardon (French & on the expensive side), Upstairs at the E.D.T. (Italian-ish and reasonably priced), Tandoori Nights (Indian, excellent value for money and newly refurbished to give a modern fusion feel) Sema Thai & Thai Corner Cafe (both with good food although I prefer Thai Corner Cafe as you can still bring your own alcohol!).
The list goes on, so all I will say is that you should come and check it out for yourself, you may be surprised by this little gem sparkling away in South East London!
11 April 2002
Moved to East Dulwich in December 2000 and absoulutely love it!...
Fortunately I managed to get on the property ladder and its a good job as the price increase has been phenomenal - nearly a 25% increase in 15 months!
Area is really improving - it seems like new bars/shops/deli's are opening weekly!
If your thinking of moving to East Dulwich you'd better move quickly though because the proposed East London Line extension will send prices through the roof.
27 March 2002
I have lived around SE22 for the last 3 years and love it....
Thankfully, I got on the property ladder last summer, we would be priced out of the area now with the unbelieveable increases. There are great restuarants, bars and little bitty shops with more popping up. The area is full of like-minded 25-35 yr olds wanting a safe, happy area to live in.
16 May 2001
I used to live in SE22 and miss it like crazy!
There are some great little restaurants, namely Le Chardon (French and great for a special occassion) and the Thai Corner Cafe - the food is yummy at a reasonable price, and as a bonus,you can take your own alcohol.
There's the organic green grocer, the quirky Grace and Favour for lunch and coffee, along with some gift ideas, not forgetting of course 'Ed'. If you are ever stuck for a present, then go here. It won retailer of the year last year, so there's proof enough!
It's so green and kind of arty in a non-pretentious way. It's not far from Dulwich village either, so if you want a walk in the park, or to feed the ducks you can do just that.
Friends that visited were amazed at how close it really was to the city, as there are overground stations at East Dulwich direct to Victoria, Denmark Hill into Blackfriars - regular buses etc. Not forgetting of course the fab Sainsbury's for that compulsive weekly shop. Go there for a visit. You will be enlightened, inspired, and want to live there too.
12 April 2001
I have lived in East Dulwich for nearly 5 years...
It's near town (zone 2) and the City. Black cab can be less than £10 back. Has some ok pubs try the East Dulwich Tavern for the Comedy night and Clock House for views over Peckham Rye. Sainsburys on Dog Kennel Hill is good. Lots of cafes and restaurants to choose from as well as many shops and newsagents. Loads of buses go to town (Waterloo/Victoria/London Bridge). Near to Dulwich for that villagey feel. Not far from Clapham and Brixton for going out.
And everyone is moving here!!
24 May 2000
I live in SE22, East Dulwich, within a London Square which is protected under conservation legislation...
The residential area between Peckham Rye Common and Lordship Lane contains large amounts of Victorian terraces, along tree-lined streets. Being south London this area is a hidden gem as people assume that since it has no tube then it is too distant. Many green areas located nearby, including the beautiful overgrown Nunhead Cemetery.
23 May 2000
East Dulwich is the 'Crouch End' of South London...
It has a lively, but villagy feel. Some very cool shops (Ed, Grace and Favour) and cafe's in 'becoming trendy' Northcross Road. It is extremely up and coming, and there are some lovely Victorian properties with many period features
31 March 2000
Residential area mainly of Victorian terraced houses...
Many of the shops, eateries and holsteries are to be found on the local high street Lordship Lane which travels two miles down to Dulwich Park. Near to Peckham Rye Common and Park.
East Dulwich also has two exercise establishments, one at the football ground and another run by the council which includes a 27m swimming pool. 15 minutes walk from the centre of East Dulwich is the Peckham Premier 6 screen cinema which can always guarantee loads of empty seats to see the latest films.
East Dulwich has its own train station which runs around 6 times an hour to London Bridge with a journey time of 12 minutes. There are 3 main buses, every 10 minutes which take you out of this zone 2 area and into central London.
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